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Rinoseat GTR - Aluminium Cockpit

Messagede renorino » 11 Fév 2008, 16:40

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packaging unit weight: 12 kg
packaging unit size: 84 x 48 x 17 cm

video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_ruAMgWHyo driver height 190cm
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci03Sy3p47I
video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=UDjdhOSILXc
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4jFmuImnx8 driver height 181cm
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HovnO_XcvXo
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDBh7fusSWw
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gwHdHLsPto
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOIOLNDvLSc

big review: http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpost.php?p=3695615&postcount=57

video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKMxINVNd70 hard test - drifting in LFS
&review: http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpost.php?p=3647082&postcount=33

video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xN5QLNdUwuo driver height 197cm
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN8WQtYEE1k driver & little codriver

pictures: http://picasaweb.google.ro/Gaas35/RinoSeatPrezentacijaTest
pictures: http://picasaweb.google.ro/rinoreno/RinoseatRevolution

assembly from Sweden: http://teamxfr.org/temp/
review from Sweden: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=684459#post684459

videos: http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=shoock123&p=v

video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=AbfLCZ4QrS8 heel and toe technique
&my opinion about posibility of driving with heel and toe technique with Rinoseat + G25:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpost.php?p=3664249&postcount=5

some reviews:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpost.php?p=3661616&postcount=41
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=684459#post684459
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=38375

my answer:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=683080#post683080

big thread (GENERAL PROMOTION):
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=304293

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...And it does one damn good effect - it transfers the FF efects right onto your body! Not all effects can be felt - going over the curbs is like-never-before, also hitting the wall - but thats not what we want...
...I also really liked the fact that you can feel the FF effects almost trough all your body. This brings in a new dimension in simracing, you can feel every bump, curb or reving the engine...
...I felt force feedback in my seat! Like i was driving a real car! I am g25 owner for a long time, and it is attached to my desk where it has no chance of moving.. that's why rinoseat felt great, because that pipe reacts slightly on strong pulling and strong effects... I must admit that it turns out to be biggest reason I liked it. That pipe and way rinoseat was designed is breakthrough in world of simeracing. Don't let something fool you around if you hadn't tried it! Feeling that I felt is hard to describe, it is really special. Don't think that you can brake or deform that pipe. I haven't seen a situation in which it could happen. I even tried my self to deform ti- result was moving whole seat with man sitting on it...

Yes, you can feel FF effect in your body. How is it possible?

The concept of stability is completely different from any other product. This is revolution in game chairs. Rinoseat stands on the floor in four points. There are two points on the back side (they carry 60% of gamer's weight), third one in the middle section (which carries 0%-40% of the user's weight) and the fourth point under the pedal (that one carries 40%-0% of user's weight).With weight distributed like this, pedal plates are loaded with max. 40% of user's weight and they safely stand on the floor. With asymmetric pressure on pedals (acceleration - brake), pedal plate mount is safely fixed to the floor. Middle section can change pressure to floor depending of user weight. Such construction, result that the middle section can vibrate a little. Vibration are produced by FF wheel, and are transfered through tube on your seat's base steel construction.

This is completly new dimension of pleasure in raceseat.

Additional option: Higher Shifter
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Rinoseat is totally different from any other raceseats, because we have been developing raceseat to improve driving experience and to improve the feeling of driving. For improving driving experience, we have many factors. Some of that are: foot pedal angle, seat base length, seat base angle, position of your crank, lumbar support, commodity, angle of your back... "Real" race seat is not good option for sim racer. Maybe for realistic look, or feeling of "siting", but for long long driving it is not a good solution. When we started Rinoseat project (2.5 years ago), we decided that we would make something completely different, something revolutionary. We do not want to copy other similar products. We have analized the market and we made construction and design priorities and developed Rinoseat through series of rigorous tests.

Renato Markovic, dipl.ing.
owner & constructor
Rino Industries Ltd.
Zagreb CROATIA
reno@rino.hr
http://www.rinoseats.com

RINOSEAT REVOLUTION
THE KING OF SPEED & PLEASURE
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Messagede Max_flash » 11 Fév 2008, 17:13

Et le prix de l'ensemble ? (sans le G25)
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Messagede renorino » 11 Fév 2008, 17:18

Rinoseat Revolution ... 169€
Rinoseat Revolution - G25 Edition ... 199€
Transport cost ... 50€

We take the responsibility about any lost or broken parts of Rinoseat in
transport, and we will send you the replacement!

All our products have warranty of 1 year, and lifetime warranty on all
steel and aluminium parts.

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Messagede [TBF] EESA » 11 Fév 2008, 18:34

Sympa tout sa.
Mais sa ne me paraît pas hyper solide
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Messagede _ALUCARD_ » 11 Fév 2008, 18:51

je pense pas qu'il y ai un probleme de solidité, par contre le truc dois certainement manquer de rigidité, un tube pour tenir la tablette du volant c'est un peu juste pour un g25 ou un rgt je pense, enfin, ça doit etre bon tant que c'est pas utilisé pour du drift ou du rally. :)
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Messagede Ryosuke » 11 Fév 2008, 19:47

Sympa comme idée mais c'est vrai que ça a l'air fragile sur la vidéo
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=bKMxINVNd70

Ca gigote pas mal :cry:
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Messagede [TBF] EESA » 11 Fév 2008, 22:01

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Sa gigote oui :P le dessin plus haut explique pourquoi.

Sa manque de petit bouchon pour le siège, genre sur du parquet à sautilé sa vous le flingue sur 5cm.
Sa m'as l'air cool mais trop petit les tube, sa doit vachement être limité pour le poid
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Messagede renorino » 12 Fév 2008, 04:44

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=bKMxINVNd70 -> driver review -> http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpos ... stcount=33
...Onto the steering wheel mount. So this is what I also didn't like when I saw the pictures. And also I was thinking will it move all over the placewhen I push it really hard, as can be seen in the video linked above.
So, it does move a bit. But not the way You may think it moves. The creator of teh seat gave me the pipe which holds the wheel. It has very large torsional rigidity and it is pretty impossible to apply tiny distortion to it, bending is absolutley impossible. OK, back on topic - it moves, but not itself - it actually "moves" whole construction - thats how rigid it is!
And it does one damn good effect - it transfers the FF efects right onto your body! Not all effects can be felt - going over the curbs is like-never-before, also hitting the wall - but thats not what we want ...


another driver: http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpos ... stcount=32
...Hi all! I am the one who shot all that video ( with cell phone...but..:=))
It is shot with that purpose- to see that little moving of the table. Every video is shot when using too strong ff.. when using normal ff pipe is slightly moving;
i am talking about hardy noticeable movement,and if any at all. But, how I am one of those who like everything very tight and strong, without feeling that I am
holding something weak, what i could brake, I went on presentation with big doubt about
it's firmness. After my first ride with normal ff strength it was very hard to notice anything, and there was no sight of big movement etc. Next ride i tried to set it all hight and get a bit wild. While increasing ff values i noticed (visually) movement., but feeling what i felt in my hands, it was great!
I felt force feedback in my seat! Like i was driving a real car! I am g25 owner for a long time, and it is attached to my desk where it has no chance of moving.. that's why rinoseat felt great, because that pipe reacts slightly on strong pulling and strong effects... I must admit that it turns out to be biggest reason I liked it. That pipe and way rinoseat was designed is breakthrough in world of simeracing. Don't let something fool you around if you hadn't tried it!
Feeling that I felt is hard to describe, it is really special. Don't think that you can brake
or deform that pipe. I haven't seen a situation in which it could happen. I even tried my self to deform ti- result was moving whole seat with man sitting on it...


big review http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=38375
...This seat is not totally stiff construction. It have an very small amount of flexibility almost as vibrations. To me this really bring something extra to the driving! The driving have become more alive. I can actually feel what the car is up to, an extra feed back. You become one with the car. I might add I always drive in cockpit view. I never get a feeling of weakness in the construction, it is very stable!
When I'm not racing I just lift the Rino Seat out of the way and put in my old chair in front of the computer
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Wheel tube holder
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It consists:
steel 4mm (part with two holes)
steel 6mm (part with thread)
steel 3mm (left and right side)


Middle section
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can change pressure to floor depending of user weight. Such construction, result that the middle section can vibrate a little. Vibration are produced by FF wheel, and are transfered through tube on your seat's base steel construction.


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This is the last position of seat back.
Can you imagine, how Rinoseat must be stabile and strong, when it can keep the driver safely sitting in this position (position of F1 driver).


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Messagede Yaonnis » 12 Fév 2008, 17:22

Ahhhh sacrilége, il joue avec ces Groles tous pourris sur un pédalier de G25 Image pas bien..... :mrgreen:
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Messagede renorino » 13 Fév 2008, 03:02

_ALUCARD_ a écrit:je pense pas qu'il y ai un probleme de solidité, par contre le truc dois certainement manquer de rigidité, un tube pour tenir la tablette du volant c'est un peu juste pour un g25 ou un rgt je pense, enfin, ça doit etre bon tant que c'est pas utilisé pour du drift ou du rally. :)


Richard Burns rally driven with Logitech G25 mounted on RinoSeat

video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8644&hl=en

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Messagede leo » 13 Fév 2008, 03:49

Your rigs seems to be well thinks and well made with lot of genuine idea. it has lot of inovative things that other dont have. but the one harm for wheels base is a Worries for me. What happend with a ffb on 100% ?

I've already made my own cockpit so it's too late for me :P
mine is made with aluminium tube and wood plate. It had cost me aproximately the same money as yours.
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Messagede renorino » 13 Fév 2008, 04:10

leo a écrit:Your rigs seems to be well thinks and well made with lot of genuine idea. it has lot of inovative things that other dont have. but the one harm for wheels base is a Worries for me. What happend with a ffb on 100% ?

I've already made my own cockpit so it's too late for me :P
mine is made with aluminium tube and wood plate. It had cost me aproximately the same money as yours.


Thank you for your comment.

No problem with ffb 100%.

video with strong ffb:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A77dylVLsoU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=D88MbEhRcs4
review of driver:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpos ... stcount=33
...Onto the steering wheel mount. So this is what I also didn't like when I saw the pictures. And also I was thinking will it move all over the placewhen I push it really hard, as can be seen in the video linked above.
So, it does move a bit. But not the way You may think it moves. The creator of teh seat gave me the pipe which holds the wheel. It has very large torsional rigidity and it is pretty impossible to apply tiny distortion to it, bending is absolutley impossible. OK, back on topic - it moves, but not itself - it actually "moves" whole construction - thats how rigid it is!
And it does one damn good effect - it transfers the FF efects right onto your body! Not all effects can be felt - going over the curbs is like-never-before, also hitting the wall - but thats not what we want...


author of video:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpos ... stcount=32
...Hi all! I am the one who shot all that video ( with cell phone...but..:=))
It is shot with that purpose- to see that little moving of the table. Every video is shot when using too strong ff.. when using normal ff pipe is slightly moving; i am talking about hardy noticeable movement,and if any at all. But, how I am one of those who like everything very tight and strong, without feeling that I am holding something weak, what i could brake, I went on presentation with big doubt about it's firmness. After my first ride with normal ff strength it was very hard to notice anything, and there was no sight of big movement etc. Next ride i tried to set it all hight and get a bit wild. While increasing ff values i noticed (visually) movement., but feeling what i felt in my hands, it was great! I felt force feedback in my seat! Like i was driving a real car! I am g25 owner for a long time, and it is attached to my desk where it has no chance of moving.. that's why rinoseat felt great, because that pipe reacts slightly on strong pulling and strong effects... I must admit that it turns out to be biggest reason I liked it. That pipe and way rinoseat was designed is breakthrough in world of simeracing. Don't let something fool you around if you hadn't tried it!
Feeling that I felt is hard to describe, it is really special. Don't think that you can brake or deform that pipe. I haven't seen a situation in which it could happen. I even tried my self to deform ti- result was moving whole seat with man sitting on it...



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About steering wheel mount, first, this is special type of metal tubbing, much stronger than any other on Rinoseat (do not be fooled by dimension). Second, steering wheel mount has special joint attached to seat. It uses weight and pressure of body to "ground" intersection forces in the seat.

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Messagede leo » 13 Fév 2008, 12:47

thanks for details.
I've not noticed the arm was mounted on the seat, i was thinking it was on the floor.

There is a lot of people who try the commercial experience of building simulation tools.

Does it start good for you ?
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Messagede renorino » 14 Fév 2008, 02:09

leo a écrit:thanks for details.
I've not noticed the arm was mounted on the seat, i was thinking it was on the floor.

There is a lot of people who try the commercial experience of building simulation tools.

Does it start good for you ?


Thank you for your question.

Yes, we exported Rinoseat in Portugal, Poland, Finland, Sweden, Italy, Germany, Netherland, Switzerland, Slovenia, Serbia, Croatia, Austria, UK ... in only one month. We have excellent reviews from our customers.

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Messagede renorino » 16 Fév 2008, 03:00

Richard Burns rally agressive driven with Logitech G25 mounted on RinoSeat

video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3082724423152047005

Unique construction of Rinoseat enables sim drivers to feel more of FFB and in that way enjoy more in virtual reality. Flexibility (there is no wobbliness, loose or shaky connection beetwen any part) of steering wheel support tube helps FFB forces to vibrate and travel through seat and body. That could be compared to "resonating forke" effect well known from physics.

...This seat is not totally stiff construction. It have an very small amount of flexibility almost as vibrations. To me this really bring something extra to the driving! The driving have become more alive. I can actually feel what the car is up to, an extra feed back. You become one with the car. I might add I always drive in cockpit view. I never get a feeling of weakness in the construction, it is very stable!...
review: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=697275#post697275

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